Mark Chapman is joined by Tuffers and England World Cup-winning spinner Alex Hartley to listen to and discuss Phil’s chat with Leach. From the satisfaction of a stumping to speed, crease position and chirping Brian Lara – they discuss what makes slow bowling so special and something that they all love. The panel also discuss the preparations for the first Ashes Test at Edgbaston and how injuries have affected England’s squad. TIMECODES: 03’30 – Ashes preparation 08’10 – Phil and Jack chat about the love of spin 17’20 – The importance of variation and guile 26’30 – What Jack has learnt from test cricket 37’30 – Jack interviews Phil 43’00 – Steve Smith discussion